I left home at 16. My grandparents knew a trainer, and I was, I I loved sports as a kid, and but I was the smallest smallest guy in the school, and everyone would guess, from about 13 onwards, 14 was saying, you should be your jockey. So I actually had the contact, and he said, yeah. Yeah. I mean, 16, tell him to pack his bags and come and work for me.

So I promise to get you to share something in the beginning that no one knows or at least many. And you said and, Riz, I actually used to be a resource jockey. Tell me about that.

Yeah. I, you know, I left home at 16. My grandparents knew a trainer, and I was, I I loved sports as a kid, and but I was the smallest smallest guy in the school, and everyone would guess, from about 13 onwards, 14 was saying, you should be your jockey. So I actually had the contact, and he said, yeah. Yeah. I mean, 16, tell him to pack his bags and come and work for me, and that's how it started. And I rode for about four years in The UK, and then the last year in The US