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What top investors are saying about fundraising

10 clips across 10 episodes from 7 shows

Founder dilution has become the silent killer of venture deals in 2025, with investors drawing hard lines that would have seemed unthinkable just years ago. As capital markets tighten and investors become more selective, the math of equity ownership is reshaping how startups approach fundraising from day one.

Yuri Sagalov puts the threshold bluntly: "25% to me is kinda like the cutoff. After that, I started thinking about, like, why why is it so diluted?" Beyond that point, he says, "A lot of investors will pass actually for that reason because it's difficult to have the conversation with telling people that you should own less of the business than you do." The harsh reality is that excessive early dilution creates a nearly unfixable problem. Sagalov notes that while some investors might help unwind problematic cap tables, "it is very difficult to unwind" because you're essentially asking existing shareholders to accept less ownership.

This shift reflects a broader recalibration in how investors evaluate risk and founder commitment. Henry Shi, who endured 144 rejections before securing funding, observes that the fundraising process remains "one of the things they like least about starting a company," but his experience sitting "on the other side of the table as a venture partner" revealed how much investor psychology has changed. The bar for getting investor attention has risen dramatically, making every percentage point of founder equity more precious.

The tactical response from successful founders has become more sophisticated and aggressive. Russ d'Sa describes how he and his cofounder at LiveKit deployed a deliberate "good cop, bad cop" strategy during negotiations: "Deezy, my cofounder, would basically talk to the investors and, like, negotiate with them and then say, like, you know what? Russ is just not willing to do this." This approach let them maintain leverage while keeping one founder as the relationship builder. D'Sa positioned himself as the "bad guy" who wouldn't budge on terms, creating artificial scarcity that protected their equity position.

Cold outreach has evolved into a science of credibility signaling. Chaz Englander emphasizes that successful founder outreach hinges on establishing legitimacy immediately: "how can you in that first three or four words get some level of credibility? Is it a name drop?" The compounding effect of each meeting matters more than ever, since "if you're meeting one person, it's you're not meeting just them. You're meeting everyone else that they know." This network effect becomes critical when investors are seeing fewer deals and relying more heavily on warm introductions.

Perhaps most telling is how the deployment of investor capital itself has become a higher-stakes game. Manny Medina warns founders about frivolous spending: "if I take your money and I blow it on ads on on on Times Square, you're gonna be mad at me." His response as an investor is direct: "once the money's gone, it's gone, bro. Like, they start start coming back." This dynamic puts additional pressure on founders to show measurable progress with every dollar, making the case for preserving equity even stronger.

The emotional toll of this new reality shows up in founder stories like Daniel Cheaib's experience hitting "the lowest point" before an investor called just three weeks later. The binary nature of fundraising success means founders face extended periods without income while their equity gets carved up in smaller increments. Even successful raises, like the founder on The Pitch who "raised a total of $700,000" while "looking for a million," demonstrate how founders must accept smaller rounds and preserve more equity for future needs.

The strategic response for founders in 2026 should be clear: protect founder equity percentage at all costs, even if it means raising less money or extending runway through revenue. Smart founders are learning to say no to deals that push them past the 25% dilution threshold, understanding that excessive early dilution can permanently damage their ability to raise meaningful follow-on rounds. The founders who thrive will be those who master the new fundraising playbook: credible cold outreach, strategic negotiation dynamics, and disciplined capital deployment that extends runway without burning credibility.

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