And they went and they did it. They, like, bought the company for Ron Conway. Crazy. He, like, made the the strong-arm them into doing it. It's like, it is pretty wild, like, how those connections matter in the kind of, like, the the downside case.

You know, the upside case when a company is is bought, like, then it's, like, kind of all gravy. So post acquisition, you stayed medium for, like, about two years, and then you you start LiveKit in Yeah. Early twenty twenty one. What was the original idea for LiveKit, and and why did you go out and and wanna do another one? Yeah. So

the LiveKit started it's the first thing I've ever done that sort of happened organically without intentionally trying to start a company. First time ever, the previous four, I've always been trying to start a company, trying to be like my dad,