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Software engineer jobs will be replaced by builders and product managers

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“Every founder and hiring manager I've been speaking with these days is feeling the same pressure.”

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where and I think in some places, the title software engineer is gonna start to go away, and it's just gonna be replaced by builder, or maybe it's just everyone's gonna be a product manager and everyone codes or something like this. Who says hiring has to be fair? Every founder and hiring manager I've been speaking with these days is feeling the same pressure. Hire the best people as fast as possible.

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Boris Cherny predicts the traditional software engineer role will evolve or disappear entirely, replaced by broader 'builder' roles or a world where everyone becomes a product manager who codes. This shift reflects how AI is fundamentally changing the nature of technical work and organizational structures.

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This is a bold prediction about the fundamental transformation of one of tech's core job functions that will resonate with engineers and founders alike.

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