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Lenny's Podcast · Boris Cherny
Boris Cherny reveals that Anthropic is seeing engineers spending hundreds of thousands of dollars per month on AI tokens, suggesting a future where AI tool costs could exceed salaries. The conversation touches on whether engineers will miss traditional coding as AI transforms the profession.
Boris Cherny discusses whether people should still learn programming in the age of AI coding tools like Claude Code. While he believes you currently need to understand the underlying technical layers when using AI agents to code, he predicts that within 1-2 years, coding knowledge won't be necessary at all.
Boris Cherny predicts the traditional software engineer role will evolve or disappear entirely, replaced by broader 'builder' roles or a world where everyone becomes a product manager who codes. This shift reflects how AI is fundamentally changing the nature of technical work and organizational structures.
Boris Cherny discusses how AI coding tools will fundamentally change programming, with some developers feeling comfortable with the transition while others may experience loss or nostalgia. The conversation touches on whether people should still learn to code and explores the possibility of AI writing directly to binary code, bypassing traditional programming abstractions entirely.
Boris Cherny explains how Claude Code has evolved from just writing code to actively helping with code reviews, addressing the bottleneck that emerged when AI solved the initial coding problem. He discusses how the technology has improved significantly and is now being trained specifically for coding tasks.
they're curious and they're generalists. And they cross over multiple disciplines and can think about the broader problem they're solving rather than just the engineering part of it. Do you find...
Like, I'm I've been doing a bunch of random little projects, and any it's just like anytime you get stuck, just, like, help me figure this out, and you get unblocked. Like, I used to yeah. I I was an...
then you don't actually have to know all the details. Clearly, the life of a software engineer has changed dramatically. It's like a whole new job now as of the past year or two. What do you think...
Lenny's Podcast
Boris Cherny, creator of Claude Code at Anthropic, discusses how AI coding tools have rapidly evolved from a simple prototype to handling 4% of public GitHub commits. The episode explores the transformation of software engineering roles, with some engineers now spending hundreds of thousands monthly on AI tokens, and examines what happens to the profession when coding becomes largely automated.