Investor Stories 461: Feast and Famine in Crypto, When to Take the Off Ramp, and Evaluating Founder Temperament (Simpson, Chaddha, Orthlieb)
Three veteran VCs dissect the brutal realities of market timing and founder psychology through hard-won experience in crypto's extreme boom-bust cycles. The conversation centers on a particularly painful case study where an investor watched founders reject a exit that would have delivered 5-10x returns, illustrating the complex dynamics between supporting entrepreneurial ambition and protecting investor returns.
Key takeaways
- •VCs must balance supporting founder vision with protecting returns, even when it means watching entrepreneurs reject life-changing exits during market peaks.
- •Crypto's feast-or-famine cycles demand exceptional burn rate discipline, separating founders who can adapt from those who let their companies die.
- •The hardest VC conversations involve convincing founders to cut burn rates, with success depending entirely on the founder's ability to hear difficult feedback.
- •Some investors prioritize founder relationships over maximum returns, even when they know it will cost them millions in exits.
- •Market bubble valuations create false confidence that prevents founders from taking appropriate off-ramps before inevitable downturns.
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VC missed 5-10x returns by not forcing entrepreneurs to take exit
I wasn't able to influence the entrepreneurs to take an off ramp, and they wanted to go all the way. I supported them, but I told them the valuation we are getting. We're in a bubble. These multiples are not repeatable. It's the best performing investment of Mayfield. I think three years before that, we could have made another five to 10 x and made history. It would have been the best private acquisition in 2021 in the history of venture capital.
“And the reality is some founders are willing to take that feedback and act on it early enough that there's still time to turn the ship around.”
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