My generation is the last generation where the tools were really a joy to use, and then it became very industrialized. When we were programming, I started on Infogel Basic. Infogel Basic was a very creative interface. At some point, I think in the mid two thousands, everything became this Linux terminal.

is the last generation where the tools were really a joy to use, and then it become it became very industrialized. So when we were programming, like, I started on, like, my real programming experience when I built that business was Infogel Basic. Yeah. Infogel Basic was a very creative interface. At some point, I think in the mid two thousands, like everything became, you know, this like Linux terminal, even building a JavaScript app, you have to download all sorts of software and like, hook them together. And so at least I kind of grew up in a generation where coding was like a little more creative. And then because it became such a high paying job, it kind of, I think, changed because of that. And so as we're building the product, we got a lot of criticism early on, even before AI, that Replit abstracts too much away from the environment. And we're like, we abstract it, but it is there. Like, you can peer under the hood. And I think that's what is important.