Investing as a multi-stage fund into Europe's top startups with Deepka Rana, Principal @ Northzone

you know, the political sentiment, unfortunately, is kind of against that. If you say to people, like, let's create, like, tax incentives for people to start companies and and to keep them here, and let's create new visa rules that makes it easier to to hire, you know, really amazing talent and have them like, that politically right now, like, is is probably not the most popular thing and not on top of folks' agenda. And it will take some, I think, some, you know, people who are creating policy with really long term goals in mind and, frankly, some courage

to stick their necks out and do that. But that's something I would love to see because, ultimately, it comes down to talent and access to capital and incentive structures. Right? Yeah. No. But I completely agree. And it's one of the reasons why we do this podcast. It's like we wanna open everyone's eyes to, like, the opportunities that are out there. But I think you explained it, like, perfectly, so that was really cool. And you've been an investor for about eight years. Is that right? Before you made the switch from investment banking to VC about eight years. Is that right? What have you learned in that time? Like, what what is something that you