How Google's refusal to work with Defense sparked a patriotic tech movement

advising in different capacities, but also selling to The US Government. And so it was not new to him to be patriotic and to think of of technology as a patriotic good. But it was you know, the last fifteen years, I'd say, probably after the the.com burst all the way up until 2017, we always mark it as the moment when Google refused to work with the department, then Department of Defense, but Department of War, during Project Maven, when there was a walkout of employees saying we will not work with the US government. That things changed where I think patriotic engineers said, we do wanna work with the Department of War. And and that's when Andruil was founded. That's when a number of companies started being founded that are specifically focused on working in the national interest. Yeah. I want to talk about the founding of Andruil a little bit because as you mentioned, you were involved in that at another firm previously.