I ended up as their COO for their US side. So I was like in New York and whatever. So I had a sort of team of up to 200 people, sort of $80,000,000 business.

And both at Euromoney, I ended up as their COO for their US side. So I was like in New York and whatever. So I had a sort of team of up to 200 people, sort of $80,000,000 business, etcetera, building all of that out. And I was responsible across all the G and A functions and, quite a lot of the publishing side as well. And a little corporate development.