...founders when you met them the early days of the traits they had that really got you convinced to go on a journey with them? No. I found that there is no factory of founders, and they are coming in so many different shapes. I will say maybe one thing

...the founder of the building and physical industry tend to be slightly older. So in a lot of case, it would not be kids out of YC, although I know we are seeing more and more great stuff coming out of those places, but that's just historically. But, l