...as supporting that founder and getting everything out of the way that can get in the way of their creativity. And that and what can get in the way of their creativity? Well, like, limiting degrees of freedom. If if if any of these companies had, you

...founders together, usually without us in the room, but we're safe to have in the room too. We're not looking over anyone's shoulder. We just want them to have a safe space where they can ask the tough questions. And that has because of our values ove