into joy span. How many of these additional years we actually can enjoy life? Because one thing is, if I give up everything in the pursuit of longer life, there's people that eat 1,100, 200, 1,100, 2,

...longevity movement as it ends as this crazy stage? It's an exponential stage. Gentlemen, thank you so much for being here. Pleasure. I don't think I've been more excited to start a podcast episode than to have Aubrey de Grey, Matt Caballine, and Gord

...longevity? I think the way to think about it is long tail outcomes that maybe five random people in this Japanese fishing village have lived to 115, and they still do the Sudoku every morning or whatever. Like, I think those long tail outcomes becomi

...longevity trial right now. I think, actually, the biggest issue is I think we have a little bit of a catch 22 with what kind of drug you develop for human longevity because, again, of this patent issu

...longevity is still synonymous with supplements or tests or either this thing and I optimize my resting heart rate. And, like, to be clear, like, those things probably do help, but I don't think it's seen as, like, a biological process that is interve

...think about longevity? I think the way to think about it is long tail outcomes that maybe five random people in this Japanese fishing village have lived to a 115, and they still do the Sudoku every morning or whatever. Like, I think those long tail o

I mean, let's say, for example, senescent cells. We can definitely say that they accumulate over time. We've got various ways to measure them, but those ways are imperfect because different senescent cells have different, signatures of being senescen

...longevity. You can find it from ancient societies, you know, different magic spells or stuff like that to try to extend lifespan, different potions, and, you know, alchemy as well as a form of biohacking

So, rather than, yeah, us being stagnant, we're constantly evolving. And because our environment is nowadays much more different than it was even, like, a hundred years ago or a thousand years ago, then that also warrants different requirements for o