And while she was on the board of Juventus, obviously, there was conflict. She couldn't do too much. But when she left, probably three, four years ago now, she would just see extraordinary deal flow. And because she had this real instinct and vision

and, you know, I walked in there just in, you know, another meeting and said, hey. SoundCloud's stealing market share. I have a technology that can help you, you know, change that. Let's do this, and that was it. That was, a moment we ended up workin