Even if the protections are there, I've gotten into raging fights with investors where I've had the right to do something that they seeded me that right in a negotiation years earlier, but they weren'

...awful relationships between founders and investors. Liz, welcome to the Startup Podcast. Thanks, Sonia. Thanks for having me. So I thought I'd start with, something that can sort of seem like a bit of a microcosm of the relationship between founders