But we also in the calls I have with customers, for instance, I've got monthly calls with some of the CISOs who are customers going through implementations. And I tell them what our team's fed back, that we think their team can do better, where we ne

we forget that we're the consultant and they're the patient, if you like. And because customers have money, they must always be right. And customers are not always right. We are accountable for their success and I want that in the DNA of the organisa