Headcount is just such a fundamental driver of complexity and of what your needs are. And headcount will follow on, obviously, for a revenue stage and fundraising, whatever else, but it is like a fundamental building blocks. And so just slightly arbi

employees within startups have an amalgamation of many roles. So product manager, may be doing product, but they may be doing a bit of sales and maybe even engineering. At what point do you have to get away from that, would you say? Because you can't