...founders, you spend you're in a in a semi in a in a minor crisis every every month or every quarter, or you need to just keep on pushing. If you if you if you find founders where you feel that you need to push them instead of them pushing you, then t

...they will need help at some inflection point because there are unpredictable things happening, and they would need the input. So even if I think of our stronger founders, they they still needed at some point very specific and concentrated the help. B